{"id":13988,"date":"2020-06-25T06:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-06-25T05:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/?p=13988"},"modified":"2020-05-14T16:25:20","modified_gmt":"2020-05-14T15:25:20","slug":"mystere-mystere","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/?p=13988","title":{"rendered":"Myst\u00e8re &#8211; Myst\u00e8re !"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-image zoooom\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Myst\u00e8re.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1449398\" width=\"96\" height=\"146\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Myst\u00e8re.png 458w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Myst\u00e8re-196x300.png 196w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 96px) 100vw, 96px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>D&rsquo;apr\u00e8s l&rsquo;article de Catherine BAS-DUSSEAULX r\u00e9dig\u00e9 en collaboration avec Marie-Louise GILLET, Roland ROPION et Robert SOUCHET \u2013&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><em><strong>Paru dans le Touraine G\u00e9n\u00e9alogie n\u00b0 9 \u2013 1<sup>er<\/sup>&nbsp; trimestre 1992 page 303 Rubrique \u00ab Gazette des Registres Paroissiaux \u00bb<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nos anc\u00eatres, pour la plupart enferm\u00e9s dans de longues nuits d\u2019hiver, chassant, plut\u00f4t mal que bien, les ombres de la nuit, fascin\u00e9s par le feu, nourris de l\u00e9gendes et de traditions orales, \u00e9taient grands connaisseurs de myst\u00e8res.<br>Mais tous ceux qui sont not\u00e9s sur les registres paroissiaux, \u00e0 la h\u00e2te ou scrupuleusement, n\u2019ont sans doute jamais trouv\u00e9 de solution et nous interrogent encore aujourd\u2019hui.<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n<iframe allowfullscreen=\"\" src=\"\/\/umap.openstreetmap.fr\/fr\/map\/mystere_451467?scaleControl=true&amp;miniMap=true&amp;scrollWheelZoom=true&amp;zoomControl=true&amp;allowEdit=false&amp;moreControl=true&amp;searchControl=null&amp;tilelayersControl=false&amp;embedControl=null&amp;datalayersControl=false&amp;onLoadPanel=none&amp;captionBar=false&amp;fullscreenControl=true&amp;locateControl=false&amp;editinosmControl=false\" width=\"100%\" height=\"300px\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"color:#0c6e88\" class=\"has-text-color has-normal-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Qui \u00e9tait ce petit gar\u00e7on baptis\u00e9 dans l\u2019affolement et l\u2019incertitude \u00e0 Montreuil le 26 mai 1685&nbsp;?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image zoooom\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"292\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/1992-1-TG09-3-BMS-1673-1700-Montreuil-6NUM7_158_005-b-Ren\u00e9-p113-1024x292.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13989\" title=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/1992-1-TG09-3-BMS-1673-1700-Montreuil-6NUM7_158_005-b-Ren\u00e9-p113-1024x292.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/1992-1-TG09-3-BMS-1673-1700-Montreuil-6NUM7_158_005-b-Ren\u00e9-p113-300x86.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/1992-1-TG09-3-BMS-1673-1700-Montreuil-6NUM7_158_005-b-Ren\u00e9-p113-768x219.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/1992-1-TG09-3-BMS-1673-1700-Montreuil-6NUM7_158_005-b-Ren\u00e9-p113-1320x377.jpg 1320w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/1992-1-TG09-3-BMS-1673-1700-Montreuil-6NUM7_158_005-b-Ren\u00e9-p113.jpg 1660w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Registre BMS 1673-1700 Montreuil 6NUM7\/158\/005 vue 113<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u00ab Le ving et sisiesme jour du mois de may mil six cent quatreving cinq fut baptis\u00e9 par moy cure de montreuil soubsigne ren\u00e9 fils d&rsquo;un pere et d&rsquo;une mere inconnus qui a est\u00e9 trouv\u00e9 dans les taillis de vaux apartenants \u00e0 M. de montreuil estant en danger de mort et dont l&rsquo;insertitude de paroisse de reuigny ou de montreuil un enfant requis par madame de montreuil et par tout le peuple qui en aprehendoient la mort Le parain fut ren\u00e9 fils de ren\u00e9 repusseau laboureur et de thienette rof\u00e9 ses pere et mere la maraine a est silvine blanchet fille de feu florentin blanchet boulanger et de margueritte lorans ses pere et mere Le parain et la maraine ont declar\u00e9s ne scavoir signer. \u00bb<br>Sign\u00e9 J. J. Legendre<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"color:#0c6e88\" class=\"has-text-color has-normal-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Le mariage de Louis FRONTEAU, vigneron de Notre-Dame-d\u2019O\u00eb, et de Marie PALISSIER, gagiste \u00e0 Ballan est-il l\u00e9gal&nbsp;?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il a \u00e9t\u00e9 c\u00e9l\u00e9br\u00e9 le 28 f\u00e9vrier 1848 par un des membres de la Commission Administrative provisoire de Ballan qui avait, avec ses amis, pris possession de la mairie en lieu et place du maire d\u00e9sign\u00e9, \u00e0 la suite des \u00e9v\u00e8nements qui le 24 f\u00e9vrier \u00e0 Paris avaient chass\u00e9 Louis-Philippe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large zoooom\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"674\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/1848-1-M-674x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1506846\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/1848-1-M-674x1024.jpg 674w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/1848-1-M-197x300.jpg 197w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/1848-1-M-768x1167.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/1848-1-M.jpg 882w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 674px) 100vw, 674px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>N.B. cette affaire a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9taill\u00e9e dans un article pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent &lsquo;<a href=\"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/maries-a-la-sauvette-ou-concubins-sans-le-savoir\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Ballan fait sa r\u00e9volution<\/a><\/em>&lsquo;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Deux actes relev\u00e9s par V\u00e9ronique CH\u00c9RIAUX<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"color:#0c6e88\" class=\"has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Mensonge pour sauver son honneur ? mais qui \u00e9tait le p\u00e8re ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large zoooom\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"401\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/1756-N-Loches-1024x401.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1509656\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/1756-N-Loches-1024x401.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/1756-N-Loches-300x117.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/1756-N-Loches-768x301.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/1756-N-Loches.jpg 1259w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption><em>Source : AD37 &#8211; BMS 1756 Loches &#8211; 6NUM6\/132\/133 page 10<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u00ab&nbsp;Le dix huit fevrier 1756 a est\u00e9 baptis\u00e9 Silvain h\u00e9lie n\u00e9 ce<br>jour fils de Silvain Chavarin de la paroisse de Vatan en<br>Berry et de Catherine Bourdon son epouse legitime accouch\u00e9e en<br>cette ville en passant. Le parein le Sr helie Lamblardy la<br>Mareine &nbsp;Delle hiacynte Ren\u00e9e ouvrard lesquels ont avec nous<br>sign\u00e9<br>Nota : Lenfant nom\u00e9 Silvain chavarin est illegitime<br>Le mot chavarin est suppos\u00e9 Catherinne Bourdon<br>me la\u00efant avou\u00e9 \u00e0 Loches le 6 mars 1756<br>suzor \u00bb<\/em>   (cur\u00e9 de Saint-Ours)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"color:#0c6e88\" class=\"has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Oubli en copiant le registre ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large zoooom\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"119\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/1717-D-Ferri\u00e8re-Lar\u00e7on-1024x119.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1509846\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/1717-D-Ferri\u00e8re-Lar\u00e7on-1024x119.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/1717-D-Ferri\u00e8re-Lar\u00e7on-300x35.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/1717-D-Ferri\u00e8re-Lar\u00e7on-768x89.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/1717-D-Ferri\u00e8re-Lar\u00e7on.jpg 1226w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption><em>Source : AD37 &#8211; Ferri\u00e8re-Lar\u00e7on Collection du greffe BMS 1716-1737 &#8211; 6NUM6\/107\/011 p144<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u00ab&nbsp;Le vingt deux juillet mil sept cent dix sept a est\u00e9<br>enterr\u00e9e dans notre <s>simetiere<\/s> esglise martinne veuve<br>la mardel aag\u00e9e de soixantes dix ans  Caill\u00e9 cur\u00e9 \u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L&rsquo;acte paroissial original (paroisse de Saint-Mand\u00e9) relev\u00e9 par V\u00e9ronique Ch\u00e9riaux pr\u00e9cisait : <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"274\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/IMG_20200514_144738-1024x274.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1558194\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/IMG_20200514_144738-1024x274.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/IMG_20200514_144738-300x80.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/IMG_20200514_144738-768x206.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/IMG_20200514_144738-1536x412.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/IMG_20200514_144738-2048x549.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/IMG_20200514_144738-1320x354.jpg 1320w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u00ab&nbsp;&#8230; qui a pass\u00e9 vingt trois ans <\/em><br><em>dans une <s>gr<\/s> grotte a la porte de ntre esglise au grand estonnement<\/em><br><em>de tout le monde et qui a pass\u00e9 tout ce temps en odeur<\/em><br><em>de saintet\u00e9 \u00bb<\/em>.<br>Oubli ou omission volontaire ?&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Que de voiles sur notre pass\u00e9&nbsp;! <\/strong><br><strong>Quel espoir de trouver quelque part une r\u00e9ponse<\/strong>&nbsp;?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Le_foyer___estampe_monotype_...Pissarro_Camille_btv1b6955087q_1-1024x790.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1558322\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Le_foyer___estampe_monotype_...Pissarro_Camille_btv1b6955087q_1-1024x790.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Le_foyer___estampe_monotype_...Pissarro_Camille_btv1b6955087q_1-300x231.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Le_foyer___estampe_monotype_...Pissarro_Camille_btv1b6955087q_1-768x592.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Le_foyer___estampe_monotype_...Pissarro_Camille_btv1b6955087q_1-1536x1184.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Le_foyer___estampe_monotype_...Pissarro_Camille_btv1b6955087q_1-2048x1579.jpeg 2048w, https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/Le_foyer___estampe_monotype_...Pissarro_Camille_btv1b6955087q_1-1320x1018.jpeg 1320w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption><em>Le foyer : estampe de Camille Pissarro (source gallica.bnf.fr)<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>D&rsquo;apr\u00e8s l&rsquo;article de Catherine BAS-DUSSEAULX r\u00e9dig\u00e9 en collaboration avec Marie-Louise GILLET, Roland ROPION et Robert SOUCHET \u2013&nbsp;Paru dans le Touraine G\u00e9n\u00e9alogie n\u00b0 9 \u2013 1er&nbsp; trimestre 1992 page 303 Rubrique \u00ab Gazette des Registres Paroissiaux \u00bb Nos anc\u00eatres, pour la plupart enferm\u00e9s dans de longues nuits d\u2019hiver, chassant, plut\u00f4t mal que bien, les ombres de <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.tourainegenealogie.org\/?p=13988\">Lire plus 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