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Article de Nad\u00e8ge Solet
et d’Arlette LE MAR\u00c9CHAL
Secr\u00e9taire du
Centre G\u00e9n\u00e9alogique de Touraine<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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Yves de Karvanec se sentait pousser des ailes. L\u2019amour vous colle des \u0153ill\u00e8res qui oblit\u00e8rent parfois le danger\u2026 Il galopait \u00e0 bride abattue vers Montbazon o\u00f9 sa belle l\u2019attendait. Mais, par cette nuit sans lune et avec ce brouillard dense, la chevauch\u00e9e \u00e9tait plut\u00f4t t\u00e9m\u00e9raire, voire suicidaire.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ren\u00e9e du Breil l\u2019attendit\u2026 Longtemps. Mais son beau fianc\u00e9 n\u2019arriva jamais.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00c0 quelque temps de l\u00e0, un paysan du coin, un d\u00e9nomm\u00e9 Gaygnier, retrouva dans les mar\u00e9cages entre Veign\u00e9 et Montbazon, les restes du malheureux chevalier et de son destrier. En souvenir du jeune noble, il planta un ch\u00eane que vous pouvez toujours admirer. Sur la rue Jules\u00a0Ferry, la D250, reliant les deux villes, il \u00e9tale sa ramure depuis plus de 400\u00a0ans, au lieu-dit l\u2019Effondr\u00e9e. Et l\u2019on raconte que, certaines nuits d\u2019automne, vous pouvez croiser le fant\u00f4me du cavalier tentant de rejoindre sa dulcin\u00e9e.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

Ren\u00e9e du Breil l\u2019attendit\u2026 Longtemps. Mais son beau fianc\u00e9 n\u2019arriva jamais.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Chez nous, l\u2019anecdote supplante le fait historique. Qui conna\u00eet la date et le lieu de rencontre du roi Louis<\/em> XIII et de sa m\u00e8re Marie de<\/em> M\u00e9dicis pour d\u2019hypoth\u00e9tiques retrouvailles<\/em> ? En<\/em> 1619, au ch\u00e2teau de Couzi\u00e8res \u00e0 Veign\u00e9, le duc de Montbazon, Hercule<\/em> de<\/em> Rohan, accueillit cette r\u00e9union orchestr\u00e9e par Richelieu. Yves faisait partie de cette belle assembl\u00e9e, et c\u2019est donc de l\u00e0 qu\u2019il s\u2019\u00e9lan\u00e7a pour rejoindre sa promise qu\u2019il ne revit jamais\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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La l\u00e9gende et l’Histoire<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Hercule de ROHAN-MONTBAZON \u00e9tait Pair de France, ce qui pourrait justifier le choix du lieu par Richelieu pour cette rencontre. De plus, il \u00e9tait par son \u00e9pouse Comte de Rochefort en Yvelines.<\/p>\n\n\n

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G\u00e9n\u00e9alogie Rohan-Montbazon <\/em><\/strong>
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La descendance du Duc a attir\u00e9 notre attention :<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

son fils a\u00een\u00e9 a h\u00e9rit\u00e9 du titre et devient Louis VIII Rohan-Montbazon.
N\u00e9 en 1598, il d\u00e9c\u00e8dera \u00e0 Paris le 18 f\u00e9vrier 1867.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Celle qui nous a occup\u00e9s plus longuement c\u2019est sa fille :<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Marie, n\u00e9e en 1600, Duchesse de  Rohan-Montbazon<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Elle \u00e9pouse en premi\u00e8re noce Charles Albert Duc de Luynes (5\/08\/1578-15\/12\/1621). Le Duc de Luynes \u00e9tait un favori de Louis XIII, qui est aussi le parrain de leur fils.
Marie de Rohan-Montbazon, Duchesse de Luynes, a donc ses entr\u00e9es \u00e0 la Cour dans la proximit\u00e9 du roi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Veuve, elle \u00e9pouse Claude de Lorraine (1578-1657) de la maison de Guise. Il est Prince de Joinville et Duc de Chevreuse. Et Pair de France.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

La fille d\u2019Hercule de Rohan Montbazon, devenue Duchesse de Chevreuse, se fera conna\u00eetre pour ses intrigues et surtout par sa pr\u00e9sence aupr\u00e8s d\u2019Anne d\u2019Autriche, \u00e9pouse de Louis XIII. Elle jouera un grand r\u00f4le aupr\u00e8s de cette infante d\u2019Espagne qui arrive \u00e0 la Cour, qui ne parle pas le fran\u00e7ais et o\u00f9 r\u00e8gne Marie de M\u00e9dicis, la m\u00e8re du roi.
La Duchesse de Chevreuse fera tant, peut-\u00eatre m\u00eame responsable de la m\u00e9sentente du couple royal, que Louis XIII en prendra ombrage et l\u2019exilera.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mais d\u00e8s la mort du roi, elle reprendra sa place pr\u00e8s d\u2019Anne d\u2019Autriche, devenue R\u00e9gente des deux royaumes de France et de Navarre en tant que m\u00e8re du futur Louis XIV.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mais la Cour de France n\u2019en a pas fini avec les Rohan-Montbazon. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

En effet, Hercule, le vieux Duc veuf depuis de longues ann\u00e9es, d\u00e9cide de se remarier. Le 5 mars 1628 il \u00e9pouse \u00e0 60 ans pass\u00e9s une jeune fille de 17 ans, Marie d\u2019Avaugour (1610\/1612-26\/04\/1657). Les Archives des C\u00f4tes-d\u2019Armor nous prouvent que les familles Rohan-Gu\u00e9m\u00e9n\u00e9-Montbazon et d\u2019Avaugour ont fait appel \u00e0 la Cour de justice royale de Saint-Brieuc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Cette union ne sera pas de tout repos parce que la nouvelle Duchesse de Rohan-Montbazon entend bien tenir sa place \u00e0 la Cour. Elle est belle et fera tout pour se faire admirer. La rumeur l\u2019accuse d\u2019avoir commenc\u00e9 par s\u00e9duire un des maris (Luynes ou Guise) de Marie de Rohan. Mais elle est connue aussi pour entamer des querelles avec les dames de la Cour qui tenteraient de lui faire de l\u2019ombre. Une de ces affaires prit tant d\u2019ampleur que l\u2019on demanda l\u2019intervention de la reine m\u00e8re.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Elle eut 3 enfants. Sa fille a\u00een\u00e9e(1629-1682) deviendra Abbesse de la Trinit\u00e9 de Caen. De son fils descendra le Cardinal de Rohan. Sa fille Anne de Rohan-Montbazon (1640-1684), devenue par mariage Duchesse de Luynes, donnera son nom \u00e0 la cloche de Sepmes b\u00e9nie le 7 octobre 1674.<\/p>\n\n\n

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Le 7 octobre 1674 a \u00e9t\u00e9 b\u00e9nite la grosse cloche de ce lieu et paroisse de Sepmes par moi cur\u00e9 soussign\u00e9 aux pouvoirs donn\u00e9s par messire Louis Denis pr\u00eatre licenci\u00e9 es droit prieur commandataire de Ste-Maure, vicaire g\u00e9n\u00e9ral au spirituel […] archev\u00eaque de Tours, et a assist\u00e9 pour haute et puissante dame Anne de ROHAN princesse de Guemen\u00e9e duchesse de Montbazon dame de ce lieu qui a donn\u00e9 le nom de \u00ab\u00a0Anne\u00a0\u00bb \u00e0 la dite cloche, monsieur Charles ESTEVOU chevalier seigneur de la Mirandiere, gouverneur du ch\u00e2teau et ville de Ste-Maure, Julien Fremy pr\u00eatre qui a fait la fonction de diacre et autres t\u00e9moins soussign\u00e9s.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n

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Sources :<\/strong>
– Informations trouv\u00e9es sur le site de la mairie de Veign\u00e9 – Photos personnelles
– Archives d\u00e9partementales 37 – Archives de Bretagne
– Publication de C.Bas : Des cloches et clochers CGDT 37 (p111)
– Archives des C\u00f4tes d\u2019Armor : recherches sur Louis de Rohan<\/em>
– microfilms du CGDT37<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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